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Re: Star Wars Ep. VII and Disney
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2012, 04:56:31 PM »
http://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-news/press-releases/2012/10/disney-acquire-lucasfilm-ltd
Now I kind of want to just cry...

Seriously?

How could it get any worse?  At least Lucas is (theoretically) giving up the reigns.  It might suck....it might be awesome....it might be mediocre...but we know that if it stayed with Lucas it would A: Not exist  or B: Suck.

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2012, 05:56:59 PM »
B-b-b-but it-it's Disney, guys! Star Tours?

Bah. I'm just excited that Lucas is finally giving it up. Old barve.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2012, 06:17:46 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2012, 09:09:01 PM »
I need time for my brain to process this.


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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2012, 10:52:42 PM »
I'm excited! Hopefully they don't step on too many EU toes.


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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2012, 11:38:35 PM »
I'm excited! Hopefully they don't step on too many EU toes.

I have to say, my feelings run the opposite.  Personally, I hope that everything the EU has detailed after the Battle of Endor does NOT happen.

I can't stand the EU post-Endor.   But I know I'm in the minority around here.

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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2012, 01:02:44 AM »
Sorry Dred, But I agree with Colt. I think it was a good idea on Lucas's part, because I think he just really want to deal with it anymore. I'm glad he chose Kathleen Kennedy rather than allowing Disney to choose someone.


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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2012, 01:35:33 AM »
I have to say, my feelings run the opposite.  Personally, I hope that everything the EU has detailed after the Battle of Endor does NOT happen.

I can't stand the EU post-Endor.   But I know I'm in the minority around here.

From what I have heard, the post-Endor EU sucks shebs in general. I wouldn't mind at all if they went away from those stories entirely as well.

I think most of the people on here shouldn't be worried, as this new materiel is going to be set after Episode 6. None of our beloved characters should be in jeopardy.

So you and Colt might actually share an opinion, you're just talking about different eras :P

Aside from fears about EU-trampling, I think this will end up being a very good move for Star Wars. As we have been consistently pointing out over the last few months, Star Wars is basically dead at the moment. It desperately needed a shot in the arm. I'm proud of George for passing on the torch and making out like a bandit in the process.

My larger fear is not that they will ruin materiel already in existence, it is that their new content will be aimed toward much younger audiences the way TCW is. That would be disappointing. 

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http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/star-wars-goes-disney-extent-231113047.html

Interesting article. Very good interview with George. As with most public figures, I like him so much more now that he's let go of the reigns so to speak. While I tried my best to always stay out of the bashing and to remain neutral in my judging, I will admit I did not like him on many occasions.

From what he said in the video, he seems to have turned a corner for the better.  He seems very sincere about wanting to let the franchise grow again, without his iron-fist keeping it down.

However, with all that nice stuff being said...

'"We really like Star Wars' potential on TV, and Disney XD would be a great home for that."

...worst-fears somewhat confirmed...

Anyway, I still feel good about the move overall. Thanks for the universe, Lucas. See you at Ep. VII premier.
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2012, 05:03:06 AM »
Being a pessimist, I'm terrified. But, after doing research, I have decided that the story rests in capable hands, as long as she tries to not step on many toes in the EU, because I personally like the post-Endor EU (except that Vestara went back to the sith).  I am more hopeful, but Disney worries me, considering the last pirates of the carribean.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2012, 04:50:57 PM »
Breaking news! Troy Denning to write films, Michael Bay to direct!

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2012, 07:54:16 PM »
Breaking news! Troy Denning to write films, Michael Bay to direct!

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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 01:19:08 AM »
Doesn't sound too bad, but Troy Denning's not really my favorie...
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 01:56:14 AM »
Breaking news! Troy Denning to write films, Michael Bay to direct!

:3

I would like you to cite your source of information please. According to what I have read, Michael Bay was not even considered for the role of Director.

Unless of course you're being sarcastic, and I'm too tired to realize it.

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 06:48:05 AM »
Troy Denning's stories are ok, in my opinion, I just don't really like her writing style.
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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2012, 09:43:00 AM »
Thank goodness someone realized it.

I figured if I took the two most off the wall choices and paired them...blegh.

Anyway, as far as I know, no one has been named yet.
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2012, 01:36:31 PM »
Thank goodness someone realized it.

I figured if I took the two most off the wall choices and paired them...blegh.

Anyway, as far as I know, no one has been named yet.

Now that I'm coherent enough to think properly, I actually chuckled at your post :P

But yeah, I misread the article I was referencing anyway. So far, nobody's been named or officially considered.

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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2012, 02:23:17 PM »
Good. I try.  :P

Troy Denning's stories are ok, in my opinion, I just don't really like her writing style.

Wait. Troy Denning's a girl?!

One weird looking girl...

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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2012, 02:39:42 PM »
Yeah, I'm feeling more and more confident about this...
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« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2012, 07:27:58 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2012, 09:53:39 PM »
There are two ways Mark Hamill will be on screen: The seventh movie will be set decades after RotJ, and he is playing the old, slightly portly Luke Skywalker, or with a lot of make-up and CG.


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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2012, 09:08:27 AM »
Good. I try.  :P

Wait. Troy Denning's a girl?!

One weird looking girl...

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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2012, 10:09:13 PM »
I really don't know how to feel about this.
Lucas has done enough, and selling it to another interest seems good.
But, its as if his hand is still on one side of the tiller.

My main concerns are that episodes 7-8-9  , must needs to involve "The Skywalkers" and their progeny, and we all know how that turned out. About like the first 3 films.
Interesting, novel and cool to start, then building in intensity, only to somehow fall on its face. A good chunk of the EU, that might be reflected by a final trilogy is fraught with peril. Odds are that anything great from the EU will be perverted by the new effort anyway.

Second concern, is Disney, and the need for Star Wars to go back into the rougher, darker side of story telling, if it is to be revived in the hearts of the Legion of 1st gen. fans. For this, they have a ready made and unsullied well to draw from. The Old Republic. I just don't think that Lucas had the courage to explore this fully, and I certainly don't think the "Princess" franchise known as Disney will either.

The franchise is getting to be like Freddy Krueger, or Friday the 13th part ???, only with muppets. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2012, 05:29:03 AM »
well, if Disney can produce the first three pirates of the Caribbean, then they can (hopefully) pull off a star wars that isn't totally childish.
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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2012, 02:14:33 PM »
You know Disney own Marvel too, right? And was The Avengers childish and crappy? No, it was the third highest grossing film of all time. When you think Disney, don't forget they are a corporation, not just a cartoon company. Nobody hears of Warner Brothers owning something and assume they'll make it like they did Daffy Duck, so why do people have this expectation of Disney to do the same with Micky Mouse?


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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2012, 03:37:26 PM »
You know Disney own Marvel too, right? And was The Avengers childish and crappy? No, it was the third highest grossing film of all time. When you think Disney, don't forget they are a corporation, not just a cartoon company. Nobody hears of Warner Brothers owning something and assume they'll make it like they did Daffy Duck, so why do people have this expectation of Disney to do the same with Micky Mouse?

Because most people don't immediately think things through when they hear surprising news.

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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2012, 06:34:40 PM »
The Marvel comparison is very fair.
I guess I still mentally default to another time in my mind when I think of Disney as a film franchise.
That said, I understand Disney now is widely diversified, and not just Disney, and Buena Vista like back in the day.
Does any know if the word "Disney" appears in any part of the credits for the Marvel films?
Plays to mindset I guess.

Still worried that Lucas is fondling the tiller, and or his co-chairman Kathleen Kennedy, who is onboard with Disney.

We can pray.

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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2012, 01:15:30 AM »
Lucas sold the company, and you can bet Disney will not include him at all. After all, they want to make money (Billions, opposed to the Millions that other SW films made), and to do that you need quality.


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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2012, 02:54:59 AM »
Lucas sold the company, and you can bet Disney will not include him at all. After all, they want to make money (Billions, opposed to the Millions that other SW films made), and to do that you need quality.

And they will want to recoup from John Carter.   

Which I still feel was a very good movie...but poorly marketed.  I guess they just assumed that everyone knew who John Carter was...or would be so curious about it that they had to find out.

Ironic that Lucas was so enamored with the John Carter stories that he wanted to make them himself...found out he couldn't and then made Star Wars instead.  Then Disney finally ended up making John Carter...it bombed...and then they bought Star Wars.


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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2012, 10:20:56 PM »
Supposedly there's some rumors that Matthew Vaughn, the director of the excellent X-Men: First Class could direct the new series. http://www.movieweb.com/news/star-wars-episode-7-rumored-to-get-director-matthew-vaughn

That or Colin Trevorrow, who directed the indie film Safey Not Guaranteed (which I actually saw with my girlfriend, it was a really fun movie!). Although I'm not sure if he could transition from heartfelt hipster adventure movie to big blockbuster action flick well. http://www.movieweb.com/news/star-wars-episode-vii-eyes-director-colin-trevorrow


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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2012, 09:49:10 AM »
For now, we can only get rumors, but eventually, they will HAVE to tell us.  So patience is the best option, rather than jumping at every rumor.
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2013, 08:59:05 PM »
Latest news is J.J. Abrams to direct. Unconfirmed, but apparently highly likely.


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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2013, 02:47:33 PM »
I hope it's not on Tatooine, because that's double the lens flares.
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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2013, 11:20:56 PM »
Latest news is J.J. Abrams to direct. Unconfirmed, but apparently highly likely.

Hmm...

Crossing the floor as it were.

From Star Trek to Star Wars.

Like Bryan Singer going from Marvel to direct for DC.

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« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2013, 02:47:50 PM »
You know, the tone he took in the new Star Trek was a lot closer to the feel of Star Wars than any of the previous movies... maybe he'll be a good fit for this. High hopes.
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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2013, 04:27:43 PM »
I have faith he'll do an excellent job with the movie. I met JJ once (I didnt realize it was him until I saw him on the news a few days later) at a small writers club in Hollywood, he's a super nice guy, and very dedicated to his work.


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« Reply #37 on: February 09, 2013, 12:38:44 AM »
Honestly, I like the lens flare.




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« Reply #38 on: February 09, 2013, 02:44:06 AM »
I honestly think the movies have a better chance now that he's going to direct. I wouldn't have liked it if Micheal Bay was the director. I think JJ did a good job for Star Trek. Seeing that I'm also a die hard Trek too.


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« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2013, 05:08:02 AM »
Well this is pretty awesome.   Lucasfilm have just announced that the production of the next Star Wars movies will be taking place here in the UK!  This is simply due to the previous Star Wars movies being produced here, along with other Lucasfilm movies like Raiders of the Lost Ark.

http://starwars.com/news/star_wars_feature_film_production_returns_to_the_uk.html
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« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2013, 03:42:04 PM »
Casting call has been sent out. Considering the lack of their archetype, I'd say Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Harrison Ford have already been cast. That's been rumored and practically confirmed for a while now, though...

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/06/19/scoop-star-wars-episode-seven-character-details/


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« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2013, 05:24:17 PM »
Teenage female.... Jaina Solo?

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« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2013, 06:21:07 PM »
Teenage female.... Jaina Solo?

I hope not.  I hope they go in a completely original direction and ignore all the post-Endor EU stuff.

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« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2013, 10:31:54 PM »
and here I am hoping exactly the opposite! funny, that!
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« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2013, 09:06:46 AM »
and here I am hoping exactly the opposite! funny, that!
Thats me.  I hope they don't corrupt existent cannon (spelling?).
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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2013, 11:34:33 AM »
I hope not.  I hope they go in a completely original direction and ignore all the post-Endor EU stuff.

I hear there was some really good stuff in the Legacy of Thrawn series, but if I never see any of the crap from LotF and the Vong I'll be happy.

To be honest, I'm more worried about the quality of how they tell the story over the story itself.


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« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2013, 01:10:13 PM »
If they at least borrow some cool ideas from the post-Endor stuff I'll be satisfied!

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« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2013, 02:20:28 AM »
I think anything with the Yuuzhan Vong would be huge to tackle for a trilogy.    I have a feeling it may be a Darth Caedus arc.
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« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2013, 02:51:21 PM »
I suspect it wont have anything to do at all with established cannon.




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« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2013, 07:31:38 PM »
I think anything with the Yuuzhan Vong would be huge to tackle for a trilogy.    I have a feeling it may be a Darth Caedus arc.

Considering the number of people who otherwise consider themselves fans of Star Wars who looked at the Yuuzhan Vong premise and gave a big W-T-F???   I'd be very, VERY surprised if JJ Abrams would willingly choose to go that route. 

I cannot easily articulate the myriad things that would be wrong about it, so I'll leave it at that. 

I'm all for something fresh, but hopefully something that at least feels like classic Star Wars...not an extra-galactic invasion that makes the Galactic Civil War and the Clone Wars look like minor spats among neighbours.

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« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2013, 11:32:57 PM »
It just occured to me we could have Temeura Morrison come back as an old Boba Fett. How cool would that be? Just imagine Han Solo and old Boba sitting at a table in a cantina somewhere about to get in a fight or grumbling about old age together.


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« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2013, 03:21:14 AM »
I'd be willing to wager that Boba Fett is still dead via Sarlacc in the movie-reality of Star Wars.  Almost everyone in the world is a casual Star Wars fan  (meaning they've seen the movies and rather enjoyed them.)   To those people....Boba Fett...if they even know the name of the guy...is that guy that died by falling into that tentalce-wielding mouth in the desert.

Bringing him back in a movie would cause a lot of confusion for the general movie-going public.
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« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2013, 07:46:07 AM »
Why would they be confused? Movies find ways for people to come back from way worse things than that...
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« Reply #53 on: July 06, 2013, 01:48:33 PM »
Why would they be confused? Movies find ways for people to come back from way worse things than that...

True, but it would be necessary to devote screen time to an explanation; either showing it, or having exposition of it.  Can't just have him show up and say to the casual movie goer: 'Because he didn't die in the expanded universe dumb-shebs!  Read-a-book....GAWD!'

I just can't see them spending the time to do this for an ancillary character; unless he is somehow going to be a major part of the story.  And given his treatment in previous films; it would seem awkward if he was.

I love boba-fett; but part of his coolness is that he IS in the background.  Mystery is what made him a beloved character. Too much exposition could ruin him....for the casual Star Wars fan.   He's been done to death in the EU, and I don't think it's for the better.

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« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2013, 02:06:57 AM »
From what I have gathered, even non hardcore fans realize Boba isn't dead.   The hardcore fans have let them know plenty of times. ;D


But I agree with you Dred, I hope they do not focus on him much or he will be ruined.
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« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2013, 03:04:16 AM »
One of the panels I attended at Celebration Europe II was the "Lost secrets of Return of the Jedi", with Leland Che (who looks after continuity at LucasFilm) who played a quiz of "Who is and isn't dead", showing various characters from RotJ and asking the audience of they died in the movie or EU.  When Boba Fett came up he was stated as someone who was brought back, but Leland mentioned that while he survived in the EU, in George Lucas' mind Boba Fett was always dead after the Sarlacc.

In other news, it was announced at Kathleen Kennedy's panel at CE II (which I missed) that John Williams will be coming back to score the music for the next 3 films. :D
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« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2013, 05:22:53 AM »
So Disney have announced the release date for the movie: 18th December 2015.

http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-vii-to-open-december-18-2015.html

Can't imagine J.J. Abrams is to pleased, considering he said he was happy to push the release date back as long as it was in May.

Also announced a couple of weeks back are some of the crew that will be making the movie:

http://starwars.com/news/master-filmmaking-team-announced-for-star-wars.html
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« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2013, 08:51:03 AM »
I'm hoping this doesn't signal that Disney is planning on meddling a lot...
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« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2014, 02:20:54 PM »
Guysguysguysguysguysguysguys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erLk59H86ww

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« Reply #59 on: November 28, 2014, 02:42:05 PM »
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« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2015, 09:23:45 AM »
OOHHHHHHHHHH BOY NEW TRAILER!

DISCUSS!

I really liked it, I'm doing my best to get over the canon thing, and it at least LOOKS like it'll be a proper Star Wars...
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« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2015, 05:22:41 PM »
Holy Moley.

I'm trying so hard not to have high expectations.

It's one thing to watch the trailer...but to then scroll through the facebook feed and see countless links to sites that are picking it apart frame by frame with speculation on who is so-and-so and what does such-and-such probably mean...

I just skip over that stuff.

I try to remember the hype for Episode I.    The trailer for that was the first thing I ever downloaded to watch.  Took nearly 20 minutes on dial-up...and I watched it every day a few times a day.   So...I was hyped.   

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« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2015, 08:58:18 AM »
I know, it's easy to get caught up in the hype.

And five minutes of internet will make it all feel shallow and broken.

Such is the way with everything. With enough testers, all bugs are shallow, and that applies to movie criticism as well. Everything has flaws.
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« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2015, 11:38:17 PM »
Im trying (and basically failing) to keep my expectations at a reasonable level. The Hype is so strong with this one.

I liked the trailer a lot, it has me super pumped for the movie. A few things to discuss:

John Boyega's character, the stormtrooper, needs to be shown in a few shots where he isnt panting desperately with a face of utter confusion/terror. So far thats all we've seen of him, and its becoming kind of comical at this point. It will be hard for me to take him seriously if that's all we get to see.

Whoever the new sith enemy is, he looks AWESOME. So far, he has the perfect feel of how a sith should be (IMO, of course)

I hope future trailers don't give away much of the plot. I want to be as clueless as possible when I enter the theater.
 
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« Reply #64 on: October 19, 2015, 10:48:24 PM »
Welp. New trailer dropped today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE

It looks gorgeous, and full of genuine emotion and action and . . . the music.

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« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2015, 05:46:01 PM »
I'm conflicted.
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« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2015, 03:17:57 PM »
I camped out online to get tickets for Thursday night premiere the moment they came out! Good thing, too, since they were gone in a flash.

The new trailer was pretty great. I'm still trying to contain my hype, with little success.

I'm conflicted.

Why is that?

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« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2015, 04:39:18 PM »
On the plot side of things, without getting too spoilery, it just doesn't feel like SW in any meaningful way to me. Especially with many decisions regarding the primary factions and their respective places in the galaxy.

On the technical and artistic side of things, I feel like Abrams is focused on objectives other than "make a good Star Wars movie" which isn't all that surprising, considering his reputation for odd (to say the least) artistic and plot choices and a fondness for injecting political subjects into his work.

Most notably, injecting political subjects in a way that doesn't work in-universe. The GFFA has plenty of opportunities to explore such things, but he's not approaching it in that way.

And his biggest response to fan fears that he's going to screw everything up has been "look at how I'm using McQuarrie designs and practical effects! I like SW just like you, right?"

In terms of what Star Wars is, what it means to people, practical vs. computer effects and the use of original concept art is a complete sideshow.

Further, I find the majority of the casting decisions to be iffy, at best, and the new characters have nothing that sells me on them for the most part.

The only ones I find even remotely interesting so far are Poe and Phasma, since Poe is the only one who actually looks worth watching, and I'm a sucker for armor.

Gleeson, for example, is intended to be a general, but looks like a skinny teenager who's hiding in his dad's coat that he found. Kylo? His costume design is... minimalist, to say the least, and that picture of him with his mask off was used as a profile picture on a bait account on an emo dating site for humor value. There's a reason for that.

Will he turn out to be an impressing villain? Maybe, but indications from the lines we've heard so far make it feel like we're going to wish we had Lucas-grade, sand-hating, youngling-killing dialogue back.

Really, I could rant on for another hour or so, but I'll just say that nothing I've seen so far has given me any confidence that they know how to handle what they have.
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